So the Games at Lynch Or lose.

[deadguy]

Yes, the game is now i what i would call Lylo, Or Lynch or lose, Or lynch MAfia or lose, Or Don't screw this up you idiots.

What i mean is if the town lynches town, they lose, unless theres a leftover bottled fairy somewhere and the mafia runs into it. Actually thats if theres TWO left over fairys someone where and one guy has both of them because we've made a habit of stealing from the people we kill.

My Math is not wrong, your assumptions are.

Also, since we seem to have a mysterious killer who killed S1x, if HE screws up and kills town, we win also. if we lose one mafia and assume that the S1x killer can kill again, anytoenie death wins it for us the next day.

[wyborn]

That's not Lynch or Lose, you dork, Lynch or Lose is any situation in which an abstain would result in the Townies losing. We're not that badly off yet.

We will see how it goes: it is definitely down to the wire.

Also you should read the graveyard topic more, TML has basically figured out the entire list.

[tml]

As my math states -- and as TG has so boldly implied -- the game is currently 6 Townie-aligned versus 4 Mafia-aligned. I know who the Mafia are; I merely don't know their abilities or their roles. I believe I know all of the Townies' roles are EXCEPT Ian's. I do not think Ian is a Hero.

There would be only one case where this game is Lynch (Mafia) or Lose, and that is the following:
(1) I am correct about the nature of Ian's role, and
(2) I am wrong that the Mafia cannot execute a second kill during the night.

Otherwise, the Townies are able to abstain ONCE and win. I pray that the Townies, if they are desperately uncertain about who to vote for, will take an abstain if they must. It will improve their odds of winning, ironically.

However, if they lynch incorrectly, you are right; the Townies lose it.

If my crystal ball is reading correctly, this game will boil down to Day Eight and will effectively be the in the hands of four players -- and I believe I know who they will be. If that's correct, two players will accuse one another of being Mafia; the other two players -- both Townies -- will have to agree who they need to vote for. This is the best time to take their abstain, although it'll still be risky; if they do that, it goes to Day Nine, and there'll be only one vote that matters. Almost certainly, the deciding vote will be Ian's.

[CuccoLaveil]

THERE'S NO MYSTERIOUS KILLER, TG. WY KILLED S1X.

And he framed my dead body by using my knife.

You'd better return it to my grave after you're done with it. I'm very anal about my possessions.

[deadguy]

when was it established Wy did it? more to the point, why would he kill S1x? More to the point, what kind of Balance is an unlynchable Vig who knows everyones roles?

Also Wy, your right, its not Technically at lynch or lose because you can abstain in this game (and delay the envitable) but most people would consider that lylo anyway.

(Abstaining, after all, only gets you another five days to talk and townie death.)

One more thing: TML is dead so he can't share it, TML knowing who everyone is has no effect on the game.

[tml]

Actually, even if they abstain, it's not necessarily Lylo, TG. You don't know what the Townie's abilities are; just because the Great Fairy is dead doesn't mean that kills cannot be blocked.

Should a night-kill get cancelled out, the Townies effectively get a 1-up.

[deadguy]

Nobody counts powerroles at lylo. I realize not counting powerroles at lylo technically means its not actually a literal term, but anything where Town is one or two deaths from losing is considered lylo.

after all, powerroles and items are not a sure thing.

stop assuming i don't know these things.

[tml]

I would think, by the very premise of the term "Lynch [Mafia] or Lose," that you have one of two choices:

(1) Lynch [Mafia], or
(2) Lose.

Even with an abstain, the fact that there's a third option seems to me to be a flagrant violation of the term.

Then again, I've never played Mafia before, so I don't know your jargon. If you say it is, fine. That doesn't stop me from FoS: That Guy.

[deadguy]

Considering i just argued that the term was not perfectly literal, your most recent argument doesn't do anything.

[tml]

As I said, I'm not familiar with your jargon. Thank you for teaching me.

[deadguy]

NO :mad:

[majora]

This situation is eerily similar to one on the Mafia board.

[wyborn]

I'm just saying that if you say "Lynch or Lose", then they abstain, then you say "Lynch or Lose" tomorrow, you're a dork.